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This is just a piece of pig ignorant Zionist propaganda hidind the illegal state of isreali history of war crimes.

First rate!

If I could get bloody blogger to accept posts I'd put it up on my blog.

While I agree with you that the left is not, in fact, anti-semitic, the same cannot be said for the Arab world and its official press. Here Israel and Jewishness are interchangable and both are the objects of hatred and terrorism.

It is not accidental that the offical Egyptian television network made a multi-part, suitable for viewing during Ramadan, series based on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". The anti-semitism of the official Arab world is vile in itself and is, sadly, reflected in a great deal of the support the Left shows for the Palestinian poster boys of pan-Arabism.

I think you draw an important distinction; but it is a distinction lost on the hater of the far left and the Arab media.

this is a very good point.

however, it misses the issue that anti-Israel campaigners in the west often employ a veiled anti-semitism in their arguments. The idea, indreasingly accepted, of a Zionist cabal with a stranglehold on policy making is, essentially, an extension of traditional anti-semitic tropes.

this is unnacceptable.

Very helpful. What is the basic motivation of the far left? I find the far left and the far right basically anti democratic. They both have a fixed agenda, supposedly the right is status quo and big business, the left for the little people. Never turns out that way, in practice.

The far left seems to be pro homosexual, free sex, anti conservative morals, pro choice on everything, drugs, etc. The right seems to be for hands off wild west exploitation and status quo. These are over simplifications, but roughly on target.

Personally, I am not a conventional religious or political person, but look for a moderate solution. I am not anti anything exept dictatorship, untruth, and unfairness.

Moderate

The far left's goal is to create a utopian society in which government solves all ills by controlling the upbringing and environment in which peoples' attitudes and behaviors are formed (or so they believe - modern science is proving that this is terribly oversimplistic). They believe that any methods are appropriate in this struggle, which explains why Communism killed far more of its citizens than Fascism ever did.

The far right tends to be either the far religious right, who want to impose a theocracy (and there aren't that many of these people) or the looney anti-government types who pay no taxes (and there aren't may of them either).

But if you look at the right, as opposed to the far right, in the US, you see a much broader coalition which is strongly pro-democratic. This is in contrast to even the not-so-far left, which prefers to use the courts to achieve results not possible by democratic processes (such as legalizing all abortion by any female of any age at any stage of pregnancy, without parental consent or notification), or to prevent any building or industrial project at all - see here for the resulting damage.

However, it has different views than the left as to which policies are correct. The right believes in government as a necessary evil, which has as its primary purpose the protection of the people from depradation by criminals or foreign threats, the maintenance of a justice system, the provision of a system of equality under the laws, and the provision of some fundamental services and standards.

As far as "wild west exploitation," see my piece and here for another example of how the left lies about environmental issues.
">here for how the left distorts this issue. I live in the wild west, and I see how the left prevents ordinary people from even using our common land. The right believes in conservation, which means the preservation of aspects of the environment for the enjoyment by mankind. The left, through the "deep ecology" movement, wants to preserve the environment for no rational reason whatsoever - see here.

It is a myth that the right is for the status quo and big business. In fact, the left in the US is for the status quo because they control so much of current society, while it is the right which has been waging "the conservative revolution" over the last 20 years or so. Furthermore, big business gives to both left and right. In fact, since the left is strongly for extremist environmental regulation, big companies often donate to leftist causes because the creation of those regulations make it harder for new competitors to arise, since the new competitors, while small, have to devote a much larger percent of their funds to dealing with the regulations. Furthermore, in the US, the Democrat party enjoys far more individual donations in large amounts than does the Republican party. In that sense, the Republican party is the party of the middle class, while the Democratic party is the party of the rich pretending to be the party of the poor and oppressed.

The right (or at least the "social conservative" wing) has positions on morality that the left finds offensive. The right believes that government policies which lead to the disruption of the nuclear family are dangerous and counterproductive. The left, on the other hand, believes that personal freedom is far more important than personal responsibility, and has no problems with government policies which result in broken families, etc.

Both sides are rabidly anti-drug (unless you define alcohol as a drug, which it is). However, a small but significant part of the right is for drug legalization. The National Review, the premeir conservative journal published by William F. Buckley, is in favor of drug legalization.

As far as your concerns about dictatorship, untruth and unfairness... consider...

Dictatorship in the US is unlikely, but the left, with its speech codes, its preference for powerful government bureaucracies and its history in other countries of creating many tyrannies, is the more anti-freedom movement (as far as freedoms as restricted by the government). The *only* freedoms that the left is in favor of relate to sexual issues (abortion, free sex, government support of homosexuality, etc). The right is in favor of freedom *from* government.

As far as truth or untruth... in the political world, both sides will engage in spinning the debate. I think the left is more likely to engage in deliberate untruths (Anne Coulter's book Slander details this) than the right, because they are less likely to feel any moral qualms against it. But both sides engage in it. However, the right's support for free speech as compared to the left's attacks against it (trying to shut out any of Rupert Murdoch's media acquisitions, college speech codes, deliberate destruction of right wing college newspapers, suppression of non-leftist views in almost all liberal arts journals, blacklisting of right wing artists and academics) make them far more likely to prevent you from accessing truth. About the only information the right tries to limit access to is pornography, while the left tries to deny access to anything that doesn't further their agenda (see here for one example. See this for just one of many examples of their propaganda inherent in our modern entertainment world).

As far as the original issue in this thread, the left tends to be anti-Israel because they reflexively identify with the "oppressed" as a result of the underlying marxist sentiments of their ideology (this is true even of leftists who have never heard of Marx), and irregardless of the evil wrought by those "oppressed".

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