Kerry Presidency Unconstitutional?
Sat March 6th, 2004 23:47 MSTI am not a lawyer, but I wonder if the following clause from the Constitution’s 14th Amendment applies to Kerry [note: emphasis added]
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
[Thanks to Rick for pointing this out]
I guess that rules out Fonda as VP too.
That was a really interesting post by Rick about the Fourteenth Amendment possibly disqualifying the Democratic nominee-apparent from holding office.
Orininally, as I understand it, the Fourteenth Amendment was (in part) meant to disqualify former Confederates from holding office. Furthermore, Confederates were overwhelmingly made up of Southern Democrats who changed their names. Post-Appomatox, the Ku Klux Klan was formed by veteran Confederates/Democrats to carry on a terrorist war against the United States.
The New York City draft riots were committed by hoards made up of Northern Democrats, under the Confederate flag, who lynched blacks and murdered Republicans.
To John Moore:
I appreciate what you’ve done here with this website. Let’s hope nobody like Kerry and his shrew wife ever land in the White House.
-Dan, 1st Cav
Come on now!! YOU need to spend a little less time bashing Kerry, who is not a DESERTER like GWB, and looking up how your quote here really relates to the Bush family and no one else!!
Bush’s family has been conspiring with the “enemy” since the Nazis!!
This is documented fact!!
Kerry Served, and was discharged, not sent to a disciplinary unit and then never showed up!!
Get your facts straight!! you sound like oyu are a republican, and you say you were a vietnam vet?
Did you sell out your platoon/company in Vietnam as well as in the United States by being a republican?
You really should look at your own life and why you think you want to be a republican…it just might give you some insight, then you might see why the United State needs anyone but BUSH in 2004!!
Nice blog by the way!!
tracyv
[FROM WEBMASTER: I chose to leave this quote on here since it shows how completely looney the Bush haters have become, and how unwilling they are to look at the facts (all available on this blog) that show their hateful lies to be false.]
Interesting proposition but it seems like a stretch. I guess it comes down to the legal definition of “aid or comfort”.
Those who suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome like the previous poster are only worthy of our sympathy, not our attention.
I would like to ask tracyv: You say GWB was a deserter. Well, what do you think of Ted Kennedy? Would you call him a deserter?
I would really like to enter into a dialogue with you on this point. It seems nobody else on the left wants to address this question: Was Teddy Kennedy a deserter during the Korean War, and if not, why not?
Paul from Massachusetts
Paul, tell me more. Drop me an email, please? Details, search keywords… this is a fascinating hook, I’ve never heard of this wretched little piece of nastiness re Ted Kennedy…
SharpShooter
Response to Sharpshooter:
Well, if Bush can be called a deserter, I suppose Teddy can as well. However, if it were wrong to call Teddy a deserter, I suppose it would be just as wrong to call Bush a deserter. Following is a letter I have just sent off to my local newspaper:
Letter to the Editor,
Name this mystery politician:
Through the direct intervention of his powerful politically-connected father, a young Ivy League drop-out and future presidential candidate lands a rare enlistment opportunity which keeps him far from the action while less fortunate Americans are fighting for their lives.
That’s right, this was our own senior Democratic Senator, Teddy Kennedy. In 1951, during the Korean War, he was thrown out of Harvard for cheating by proxy on a final exam. He enlisted in the U.S. Army. However, Ted was the son of a former ambassador and the brother of U.S. Representative, soon-to-be U.S. Senator, John F. Kennedy. Because of his family’s political influence, Ted had his four-year term reduced to two-years, followed by a cushy assignment. This wartime deal was on a par with George Bush’s wartime enlistment in the National Guard.
While hostilities raged in Korea Ted stood M.P. duty at NATO’S supreme headquarters (S.H.A.F.E.) in peacetime Europe. During this time, Ted’s main pleasure was traveling while on furlough, especially to Switzerland, were he won a bobsledding championship for novices.
I have never found any public reference as to the number of months Teddy actually served while on active duty. However, according to James Burns’ book, Edward Kennedy and the Camelot Legacy, “(Kennedy) …wrote his old headmaster at Milton that these had been sixteen “of the most worthwhile months of my life,” but an experience he would never want to repeat.”
Democrats such as Terry McAuliffe called Bush A.W.O.L., Michael Moore called Bush a deserter, and State Representative Robert Spellane told a group of schoolchildren its not patriotism to land on an aircraft carrier dressed in a flight suit. They are quite willing to criticize our commander-in-chief while our enemies look on.
Therefore, I ask the above named Democrats, non-veterans all, to enlighten the voters as to the value of Ted Kennedy’s military service.
Paul
tracyv recycles the same old tales about the Bush family’s alleged business ties to the Nazis, sort of an article of faith among radical Democrats and other GWB-haters.
However, left out is the interesting fact that President George H.W. Bush’s father Prescott Bush, later a Senator, who ran Union Bank — which did have financial ties to German industrial firms even after the war had begun (as did many US financial and industrial corporations) — did not make a move without reporting to his superiors at the Wall Street investment firm of Brown Brothers, Harriman, which controlled Union. One of Grandpa Bush’s superiors there was W. Averill Harriman.
Oh, would that be the same W. Averill Harriman who was a close friend, advisor and confidante of FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT, who presumably was kept fully informed about pal Averill’s continual business contacts with the enemy?
The same W. Averill Harriman who, after having served in the Roosevelt Administration, also held important advisory and diplomatic “troubleshooter” positions in the administrations of HARRY TRUMAN, JOHN F. KENNEDY, LYNDON JOHNSON and JIMMY CARTER, despite his past Nazi business ties?
And the same W. Averill Harriman who dominated the post-war New York Democratic Party, serving two terms as Governor of New York in the 1950s?
THAT Averill Harriman?
Yep. That one.
But despite the W. Averell Harriman connection , don’t hold your breath waiting for any headlines about how
NY DEM PARTY BIGWIG, CRONY OF FDR, JFK, LBJ, HAD TIES TO NAZI BANK
Much, much sexier to unearth the little-remembered grandfather of the current REPUBLICAN president (whom many of the supposedly “impartial and professional” media view with open disdain as either some sort of Fascist or, at best, a dumb buffoon) and make an issue out of HIM in hopes that some of the mud will rub off on his grandson. Anything to win the ‘ 04 election for Gigolo JFK, right?
And if we want to talk about ancestors of current politicians who had Nazi ties, how can we forget AMBASSADOR JOSPEH P. KENNEDY SR., the openly anti-Semitic US abassador to England in the 1930s, who in his reports to FDR and in media interviews urged the U.S. to pursue an appeasement policy toward Hitler, whom he tried to soft-soap as a German patriot who merely wanted to recover the lands Germany lost in WWI and — incredibly — who disliked exercising power and would retire to his painting once he had achieved this goal(!)?
This made Ambassador Kennedy the darling of the Chamberlainites and the powerful pro-German faction within the pre-war British aristocracy and ruling establishment, such as the Duke of Windsor. Even after WWII had begun,
Kennedy told everyone who would listen that the U.S. was being dragged into war by “the Jews,” said that Hitler was sure to defeat the British, and prophesied that democracy in the US was “finished.” After the war, the by-now fired ex-Ambassador counseled his son, The Original JFK (as opposed to the phony, gigolo Imitation JFK), by now running for Congress to “attack the Jews” to gain votes. Whatever else one may say about The Orignal JFK, he resisted his racist father’s twisted advice — a dirty little Family Secret that neither the Kennedys not Democrats in general feel like talking much about.
W. Averill Harriman? Wasn’t he the bigwig that got picked up for shoplifting? At Macy’s, perhaps?
not only is his campaign not legal as outlined in 14,sec 3, but his current office should be void as well.
i wrote about this on my blog a few weeks ago, and have since found even MORE evidence that this lunatic left “liberalie” has given aid and comfort to those opposed to the US.
take a look if you like.
http://mobile.blogcastlive.com/archives/000101.html
Traves
Recall that all of those KKK democrats left the democratic party when civil rights became part of its agenda in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. They became Republicans, and with the exception of some who have moved over to the Libertarians, most still are.
Response to: Strange,
Regarding “KKK Democrats,” remember that the Democratic Party controlled our government from 1801 to 1861. Because they held the executive and one or both legislative houses for most of these years, they appointed and confirmed the majority of Supreme Court Justices. During these 60 years, when they had the power to do anything, the Democrats did nothing, to end slavery. Lincoln was the first president to hang a slave trader, and slave importation halted immediately (according to W.E.B. DuBois). Southern Democrats left the Union, renamed themselves Confederates, attacked the United States, recieved aid and comfort from Northern Copperhead Democrats like Fernando Wood (who wanted to pull New York City out of the Union), and their Democrat/Confederate-appointed generals set up the KKK to wage guerrilla war against the U.S. following Appomatox. Although the Republicans passed the first Civil Rights bills and the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, the Solid South Democrats (with help from Northern Democrats) gutted these rights and guarantees, and brought back the slave codes in the guise of the Jim Crow black codes. Representing the Solid Democratic South were Coleman Blease (Democrat), who exerted his influence from 1911 to 1931, Orville Faubus (Democrat) from 1955 to 1967, Lester Maddox (Democrat) from 1967 to 1971, and George Wallace (Democrat) from 1963 to 1987.
Today, Senator “KKK” Robert Byrd (who voted against both Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas) carries on for the Democratic Party.
Interesting. By the way, according to the History Channel, the KKK was originally started by some Confederate soldiers, after the war, as a social club. Some elements of it became violent anti Black as it expanded outside its founding “club.” It was moved into the full fledged Hate Group, we know now, when desegrigation was being pushed by the Federal Government in the 50’s and 60’s. By the way, wasn’t it Eisenhower who sent troops to assist in the desegrigation of the Schools and Colleges in the south?
Next, Unfortunately, Kerry, like Fonda, was not charged and convicted of aiding and abetting the enemy. With the presumption of innocence, they can not be held to that clause unless they were convicted. If the liberal media were to dig into his record, even 1/10th of what they dug into Bush’s NG service, then report what they find, people would, for the most part, keep him out of both the White House and the Senate.
I went and researched this for a newspaper article, here’s the link:
Refighting the Civil War