My wife is one who doesn't believe any of the things Kerry has done. If it isn't on NBC Network News, it didn't happen. And anything I read on a blog is, ipso facto, Republican lies and BS. Unfortunately I think a lot of people are like that, which is why it is so easy for the media to control the public's collective opinion.

What you are doing here is incredibly important. If the mainstream media doesn't report on Kerry's traitorous activities, 90% of Americans will never even know (or if they do know, won't believe, or won't care).

[FROM BLOGMASTER: Thank You. The MSM is not planning on reporting on the real John Kerry of the '70s. That is why we are asking readers to take this information, write letters to the editor, call talk radio, try to get your local TV to cover the story. We are up against an Iron Curtain keeping the truth locked up and not letting it free in the world. If you think your fellow citizens should know about this, you are going to have to help. Thanks, John Moore, Vietnam Veteran USNR, 1968)

I am a life long Democrat here to apologize for the sick filth bothering your weblog. I have voted Democrat in every election in the past thirty five years and I have never been more embarrassed, more outraged and disappointed in people who are supporting John Kerry.Until last week I was about to hold my nose and vote for Kerry until I saw the awful and inexcusable behavior seen here. My party has been deteriorating for many years, but has reached absolute bottom now.

Another comment referred to the pranksters as kids. They aren't kids they're teachers, lawyers, doctors and professional people. UNtil my party rejects these sickos I will never vote Democrat or hold my vote entirely. These indecent sickos do not represent all of us but too many. I apologize to all the decent people who post here. I do not agree with all of you, but there is no excuse for this behavior. I am very sorry.

Nick R., I don't apologize for David Duke because
he's out in left field(figuratively speaking). I
will speak out against him because that is my duty.
By the same token I don't expect you to apologize
for those who've slipped a gear on your side. By
speaking out against them, you have proved that any
differences we have philosophically are a matter of
debate not emnity. So, Sir, differ away and lets get
it on.

Nick
If it is appropriate, welcome.
If you have any doubts why John Kerry should NOT be president of the United States, there are 55,245 reasons why he should not.
After what he did to us and the rest of the people who served is nothing less than treasonous.
What he did to those who paid the ultimate price is unforgivable.
He,john kerry was there. Served is another question.
One has to ask themselves how many more names were added to the Wall because of what he and his leftist cohorts did.
The real sad part is Kennedy, kerry, byrd and Joe Biden (aka the dumbest man in the Senate)are trying to repeat what they did 34 years ago to a new group of kids now in harms way putting 'IT' all on the line, for these same, selfish, self-righteous, power hungry sons of bitches. They dont deserve your vote let alone confidence, they have one goal and that is to destroy the best country in the world. And to re-write it in there own perverted image.

Mark

This is the 14th amendment, section 3 of the Constitution:

'No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.'

Am I being too simplistic, or does this say that John Kerry is not eligible for his current job, let alone the Presidency? He did give aid and comfort to the enemy, as an officer, and after taking the oath to uphold and support the constitution.

Or is this just wishful thinking?

You might check out the organization Citizens United. They are pushing the truth about Kerry (and Democrats in general) out there in a big way. The more ammo they get the better.

http://www.citizensunited.org/

Billie

Your wishful thinking is that anyone would do anything with this. In my opinion, it applies (as does a related section in the constitution itseslf that taks abut aid and comford....).

I've been very surprised at the number of intruders lately, and it seems to coincide with Mr. Moore's Kerry column. I don't know very much about how these blogs are run and how insane remarks are blocked, but a lot of them get through here compared to, say, Roger Simon's blog.

I've made a lot of insane remarks myself, and haven't been deleted without good cause, but I usually know when I have lost it. John lets me through along with a lot of other stuff until it grows into a street brawl. But still something about tinyvital bothers the other side, otherwise the idiots wouldn't be so intent on causing trouble.

Media complicity in the Kerry campaign is a piece of the Kerry mosaic now. But I wonder if we are not already far beyond normal expectations of candidate coverage. Is the battle being fought elsewhere? Each day brings something more bizarre and troubling which makes Kerry "news" coverage almost inconsequential.

Albert Gore, who I honestly believe is insane, is at it again, and being covered as if he were a rational observer. Luckily, the man's instincts for self-destruction are unfailing. The long and sad slide into personal dementia and public oblivion is underway for Gore. And he deserves it, but he is listened to, and the Kerry campaign uses Gore like a rented mule.

The Michael Moore phenomenon is extra-media, and the Kerry campaign is apparently pleased with the film. It serves their purpose, as well as the purposes of Hezbollah, which is vastly more dangerous than Al Qaeda. Dem Party figures like Daschle and the nauseating Tom Harkin attend the film viewing and recommend it. The Democratic Party has clearly taken the decision that Michael Moore is an asset, when he is without question one of the most disgusting and monstrous pigs on the scene today.

On another site, this incisive observation was made: The Democratic Party today is analogous to the German Conservatives of the 1930's. They accepted the Nazis because the Nazis did the dirty work, but we know who won, and what the outcome was.

The Democratic Party no longer needs the conventional news media because of the shear size and variety of media outlets, entertainment, the lunatic Dem weblogs, Hollywood and all the other known (and unknown) sources of propaganda. They have made a Devil's bargain and we don't know where the parameters are. If Michael Moore isn't beyond them, who is?

We're in new waters now, dangerous waters, chiefly because The Left and, yes, the Democrats, have dragged our Republic into the sewer with them, and the rats are chewing at all of us. They have scraped away the crust on the mud and repulsive creatures are scurrying everywhere...we see them here from time to time.

I'm very worried. We must not lose this one. The evil here is continuous with Islamofascism, and there is no going back.

Hey Rhod, I think that we're going to do it regardless of the spin. It's not often that I see defection for a single election such as I'm seeing now, and it's not often that the messages of defection get past the major media. I'm seeing it today and it says something about the situation that we're in. My own, unlearned, opinion is that the public has already made up their mind about the respective strengths of the two candidates and chosen the stronger one. As much as Kerry wants to appear strong, his conduct during 'Nam won't cut it. The folks on his side know it, and as much as they want him to be right, when the time comes the country will come first.

Mike:

I certainly hope you're right. I don't see any defections here in the northeast, probably because every sane Democrat already bailed during the Reagan years. What remains is the "I Love Vermont" contingent. Well-to-do, urbane, silly, and habitually "liberal", with a world view built from CPTV travelogues.

They voted for Gore and will automatically vote for Kerry. And Kerry, bad as he is, is not THE issue. It is the portal from the lefty underworld he will provide (if he wins) for the other people we're talking about here. If you read the vile posts from "European", you know what I mean. Thanks.

I took a European trip, recently, and struck-up a remarkably warm--and strangely symbiotic--friendship with a delightful Maine couple, a retired college professor and his Vassar-educated wife. Both were extraordinarily articulate, almost ridiculously well-read, and, in mannerism, polished to absolute perfection--in other words, these were the Maine-version of Rhod's urbane Vermonters, those "habitually liberal" folk who remain as deeply entrenched within Democratic Party traditions and beliefs as even the most obstinate Kennedy.

For ten really happy days we discussed European politics, culture, religion and history to saturation point. And then, upon reaching the French port at Strasbourg, the man suddenly seemed to come apart at the seams. Out of the clear-blue this marvelous gent suddenly blurted: "Good lord! If only we had a president like Jacques Chirac!" Like a well-lubricated Adolf Hitler, three-quarters of the way through one of his Nuremberg Nazi Party-Day speeches, the old professor shrilled with glazed eyes, "Bush is gonna' be the death of us all! He's clear-cutting the last of the rain forests, he's melting the polar ice-caps, he's alienating every last sane person in the world...he's going to drive us straight into Armageddon! (For one, do Democrats even believe in Armageddon?).

I thought the world of this man and his prim, proper, tight-lipped, Norwegian-sweatered, Birkenstock-clad wife. Until his strange and unsolicited outburst, I truly believed I had established a deep and meaningful relationship with these folks.

My Oklahoma-born wife, who patiently listened as I later expressed my disappointment with the failed 'friendship,' said: "Well, east is east, and west is west, hon'--you know what they say about that sort of thing!"

I'd like to meet the libs' on some sort of common ground, at times, but just where is common ground when you're dealing with that kind of extremism?

Well Robert, I think the man is right.
Bush does ruin us!

Robert et al,

I was baffling with that "extremist" phenomena for a long time during my encounter with the elitists. I rule out neither stupidity nor mental retard in the normal sense as the cause because these folks are well educated, well read and have accumulated considerable wealth. Until I read Karl Popper's "All life is a problem solving".

To the benefit for the uninitiated on Popper's World 3 theory, I will briefly summarize the 3 worlds:
World 1 is physical world like our hand, the rock, the birds etc.
World 2 is the mental event like memories, feelings, psychological behaviors.
World 3 is abstract world of concepts, theories like addition 2+2=4, numbers, e=m*(square)c, equality, freedom and so on and so forth.

As you can see, world 1 and world 2 are the very inclusive composition of an "individual" whether it's "life" or not "life" thing while world 3 is exclusive for human being. To make it easier to grab the idea of world 3, I call this world 3, the abstract mental library each of us carries with ourselves and the contents varied relative to the depth of an individual's knowledge.

With respect to scientific event, concepts and theories are consistent (not necessarily and absolutely true but consistently agree to that condition). That is 2+2 always equal 4 but not 5 or 3. However, the other concepts like equality, liberty and freedom etc has no absolute references and so need to be quantified against a relative achievable goal with a specific purpose to become agreeable. That is to say we use relative reference all the time to do comparative analysis in order to become agreeable . Logic and critical rationalizing which are also a part of our abstract library are used to aid the process and to prevent parties to use different set of standards in judging the outcome.

However, the conclusion can only agreeable if there is no obstruction to the path to that section of the library or in many unfortunate case of people living in third world countries, that section is just simply not existent.
In my case and perhaps in the overwhelming majority case of liberal's narcissm, that path to their library is blocked by their world 2 feelings enforced by the belief that they are they are the leader of the future to create heaven on earth, and/or they are the smartest people on earth, hence they can't be wrong. (I make my simple conclusion here but it's a complicate issue on sophists and elitists but you can find more in Karl Popper's treaties on Plato's sophists and elitists in "The Open society and it's enemy, Vol 1", and Thomas Sowell "Knowledge and Decision", "The Vision of the Annointed")

In every which way you have a dialog of an elitist, that air of "intellectual superiority" are always present. The standard of the context are employed by them at will, irregard to rule and process of logic and critical rationalized. When you confront them with the reality of the facts that do not compromise to their "vision", or they are inconsistent in their premises by employing different set of standards in the same environment, anger always explodes and cause of anger is a deeply principle or belief has been violated. It never fail to observe emotional behavior of "liberal" and elitists when you corner them. It never fail.

I have since stopped engaging these narcissistic people once I realize it is a mental condition can only be cured by self-awareness or a blow in the face by hard reality (Vietnamese elitists got that blow in 1975 and I have utmost contempt for them when they wrote their memoirs of the wrong belief they once had). Never mind the psychologists and analysts for they have the same disease as the patients.
The fact that many former leftist and liberal have come back from the grave is due to their remaining tiny bit of self-doubt that help them to pry open the block obstructing them when engaging the principle and belief that they hold dearly in their heart (count me in as a former liberal in equality issue only, but that's the starting issue getting people into the pile). Mind you, that block doesn't exist during normal events not touching their dear principles and beliefs but somehow it's micraculously appeared when you engage in issues dear to their heart.

This is a tough issue to handle, especially when you start realizing that those elitists are everywhere in the critical environments such as media, academia and high school. Internet helps a bit for fact checking and it has a long lasting memory to repudiate history rewritten habit of the elitists. But it's brand new and it takes time to change. And the mass is mainly easy going for the nature of the mass is that way as long as nothing really stirs them from issues close to their heart like job, gasoline price, traffic congestion or crime in the neighborhood. At the end of the day, there're sitcom and news for the lazy captive audiences. I know it and the elitists know it and that's why John Kerry is presidential candidate, and why it will be the most close call contest when his name should never ever be on any ballot.

The barbarian at the gate is nothing compared to the enemy within. 9/11 is a small potato event compared to what can come next and it would be a really big hard blow reality to the face of American. Like WW2 comes too late at the cost of millions of young man for the sheer mental sickness of the fews.

Everybody:
It is appropriate that a column discussing the silence and lies of The Media should find forged posts and vandalism. We need no more proof that The Left is frightened of us, frightened of free speech, honesty, open debate, always afraid of being found out, gutless to the end. Wherever you see the name "Rhod" or "Robert" or "Frank" with counterintuitive information, know that this is the trembling of the losers of the world, the continuing nightmare of the coward, the adult bedwetter, the Kerry Man through and through.It's funny and pathetic at the same. Advertise your fear, loser, over and over. KERRY IS TOAST!

Rhod

Robert,

Actually the post above inspired by many of your comments in the past and every time I want to write about it, I scrapped it because it can't be handled by a few lines to justify the whole mental process of human being to arrive such conclusion. I guess your professor comment have pushed me to the edge to summarize the whole thing as best as I can. People have written books on a single issue while I attempt to summarize everything in few lines so pardon my sudden conclusion if it doesn't appear to connect.

Correction:

Word 1 is inclusive composition of life and not life things. World 2 is inclusive composition of life things (with the exception of memory mechanism could be argued for plants) and world 3 is exclusive for human being (as far as I know and there is no conclusive evidence to support the fact that extraterestial alien is living among us)

Lan, Rhod: Enjoyed your comments, and understand exactly.

One could, as Lan noted, write volumes on the psychology of these quirky folk and their simply bizarre cultural and political philosophies.

Sad fact is, as Rhod and Lan also mentioned, these people will opt for the 'big lie' as their first, last, and supreme resort during the course of virtually any argument, and liars often win big, tragically enough, because they know no boundaries--right, wrong, good or evil. Unlike conservatives, they're unencumbered by 'mere' moral constraints.

I guess the Oakland Raiders' philosophy, oddly enough, might well descibe such political terrorists: "Just win, baby!"

Win at all costs. Monica Lewinsky, who once defended former-lover William Jefferson Blythe-Clinton, yesterday had a real eye-opener on just how Democratic 'fealty' works, didn't she?

"I never had sex with that woman...Ms. Lewinsky," said Clinton, in 1998.

"The Republicans [Ken Starr] are out to get this man," said Lewinsky, in 1999.

"I had a relationship with this woman...[simply]because I could," said Clinton, in his 'memoir.' "It was just sex, nothing more."

"I can't believe he can say that," responded Lewinsky, just yesterday, as Clinton's book was selling in 'record' numbers (according to Barnes & Noble). Added Lewinsky, "He told he deeply cared for me. He WANTED the relationship."

Welcome to Arkansas, Monica, where we figured the guy out long, long ago.

Believe it or not, there are hayseed-chewing Arkansas good old boys out there who laugh, and say, "Can you believe Yankees swallow all that bastard's (Clinton's) nonsense? With judgment like that, how'd they ever manage to win the Civil War?"

Robert and Lan:

All the roads lead back to Leftofascism here. With Godwin's Law, the accusation of fascism is supposed to terminate rational debate, but even paranoids have real enemies. And the American Left has all the distinguishing features of the fascist bougeoisie at every calamitous period in Western history.

I'm well acquainted with your Maine couple, Robert, as they are legion around here, and Lan's analysis concludes with the proper diagnosis. They're nuts. What is missing is decency, humility and self-awareness, three civilizing qualities obviously lacking in the Nutty Professor and his wife. Degrees, honoraria, and cultivation can't hide the snake pit within forever.

History is littered with the catastropohes caused by moral indifference and smugness. Just those two simple things, those two mundane elements in the facile sophistication in your Maine couple could explain much about The Holocaust. The banality of evil indeed. I don't give them an inch on this matter. I know them. I fear them because they are capable of anything. I have looked into their eyes for years around here and see only a swarm of bats.

The dull loaf of a human retard who shows up here and mocks us would dance on the grave of his own mother. No problem. Always the first to go anyway in a round up by Leftists, taken away with the stupid incredulous look on the slack-jawed face. And I would guess that some of them will end up on the floor with masked Islamic terrorists above them, about to perform the surgery. THEY are hated more than Conservatives are by our enemies around the world.

But your professor is another matter. This is the enemy at home, seen through a glass darkly, too. The old cliches come to mind. Things are never as they seem, the beast within, all that stuff. Kerry is unfit for office for lots of reasons, but first because of the people who support him.

The other day, I had the displeasure of listening to a "conservative" Middle East "scholar" ramble through a lecture on the potential receptivity to democracy in places like Iraq and Iran. His thesis, once I mined it from a wandering trail of endless dead-ends and unanswered "what I mean is..." utterances, amounted to the following: culture, specifically that of the Middle East, is irrelevant to a nation's capability of accepting democracy as its form of government.

He cited examples of various dictators who have already felt compelled to have "democratic elections", thereby demonstrating that the need to have a veneer of democracy is sign enough that a free government could be sustained.

Here is the root of the first problem: the equating of democracy with freedom. Democracy is simply the rule of the majority. In a democracy, the minority gets fucked. When the minority complains about said fucking, the majority tells it:

"Fuck you, it's in the 'public interest' that you get fucked. Therefore, shut your trap, get in the voting booth, and let us fuck you once more."
Sure, democracy might be acceptable to any existing culture in the Middle East. Where you might have a problem, however, is trying to talk to some of those guys about things like constitutional republics. I.e., governments based on objective law that uphold the rights of the individual. Instilling that in the Middle East might not be so easy.

So, here we had yet another Republican who had absolutely no conception of the relationship between ideas, culture, and forms of government. He was actually asserting that dictatorships could be transformed into "democracies" with the simple application of "external pressure". That pressure coming from (a) military force, or (b) diplomatic "pressure".

Evidently, whether your culture makes it a habit of stoning people to death for social faux pas like adultery has no bearing on whether or not your culture will appreciate a government that protects individual rights.

There are two possible courses we can take to be safe in the long run. The first, contrary to the aforementioned horseshit, is to be cultural imperialists. That is, eliminate religion from the fucking planet and maybe teach a few people that suicide bombings aren't the ideal course of action for a human being. The second possible course of action is to keep the barrels of our guns pointing directly at any two-bit dictator and let him know that he will suffer the same fate as Saddam Hussein should he support or harbor terrorists.

So pick your solution. Personally, the cultural imperialism thing is an optimistic choice, but frankly I don't know if we can handle it. Regardless of what we do, we're gonna need our finger on the button anyway, so frequent threats of mass annihilation in the Middle East will probably be necessary, and maybe sufficient.

But never mind that. Let me get to the punchline.

After the above limp-wristed conservative finished his tedious sleep-inducing speech, I felt compelled to ask a question. How, I asked, can you argue that culture is irrelevant? How can you argue that "pressure" is enough to change an entire government in the long-run?

His answer?

"I wasn't really arguing. I was suggesting."
Yes, he followed that up with other equally pussified language. But that was the only statement that stayed with me. And I was actually ready to semi-forget that statement, or at least not write about it. Then I turned on the news tonight.

On two cable news stations, I heard the following from two paid "experts" in defense of their supposed positions:

"You can make an argument for that."
Granted, this isn't as bad as refusing to "argue" in favor of "suggesting", but Jesus Christ, it's still pretty goddamn bad. Either make the fucking argument, or don't make it. What the hell does it even mean to say "you can make an argument for that"? Doesn't it matter at all what kind of argument you make?

For example, what if the only kind of argument you could make for it was a completely shitty argument? An argument devoid not only of facts, but of all common sense whatsoever? Would it really be relevant that you could "make an argument" for it?

Don't tell me that some random moron could make an argument for something. And sure as fuck don't tell me that you're only "suggesting" something. Either say it, or don't say it. If you don't have the balls to stand up for your own ideas, then either shut your mouth, or hire a ventriloquist who has the gonads to "argue" them for you.

Though, come to think of it, I guess in either case you'd need to shut your goddamn mouth. (I like to be accurate.)

Apparently, you--our 'mystery poster'--aren't getting the most from your college dollars, judging by your 'intellect.' Then, again, it's doubtful they're your dollars. I'd be willing to bet that if in fact you're even attending school, you're doing so on the government's dole.

Tell me I'm wrong, philistine.

Cat got your tongue?

Wanna' cut-and-paste another argument to spare yourself the embarrassment of exposing your supreme stupidity?

It's ironic to see ideology of the elitist attracts all the scums while the "stupid" people attracts all the intellectual. My personal quote can be a shining light on the elitists:

Words can fool men but Nature doesn't give a damn.

The spammers are trying to advertise a site owned by painter1984@hotmail.com

John,

Can't help but wonder if this ties into The Real John Kerry - Trying to Hide The Stain of his Perfidy and why the media never called him on it.

After listening to the two hour press conference given by the Swift-Vets, from Admirals to Seaman deuce's, this whole election is a no brainer.
The whole kerry campaign is a sham. Kerry himself called the former CTF commander and asked him to support him and not to follow through with the Swift-Vets against Kerry, after he said, No Way, the Kerry staff came out and called all of the signees of the petition,(for Kerry to resign from the election) a 'bunch of Alcoholics'
This is typical as soon as they run out of substance they call you names.
Just to show how the ' Band of Brothers' have bent over backwards to help, even this scumbag, in 1996, Kerry's opponent brought out the anti-war rhetoric that Kerry had used before and during his speech to the Senate.
Now get this, Senator Kerry actually called Admiral Elmo Zumwalt(ret.) and asked him to testify on his behalf(via commercial) that there were no war-crime willfully commited while he was there.
The Admiral did this willingly, according to his son, one of them, Lt. Col. Zumwalt, USMC (ret.) related how his father helped this phoney to get re-elected.
Now for the irony ? He ran for office the first time on the fact that he was protesting a war that was filled with willing accomplices in war-crimes. Then twenty years later to turn around and say it never happened.
This is to the left out there and you know who you are, How can you be so stupid to believe this phony ??
'Hanoi'John kerry is not fit to be president of the United States, His commander in Viet Nam called him 'a lose cannon, in constant need of supervision, and too impulsive to be a leader of 6 men let alone 275 million People'

'You don' hurt 'em, if you dont hit 'em'
Lt. Gen. Louis B. Puller

Mark

Hello, all--I just returned from a month-long trip across the country (FL to CA) family reunion in TX, and visiting relatives & friends in TX, AZ, & CA. Want to let you know, Rhod, that the "Vietnam Vets against Kerry" bumper stickers on our car drew cheers and "thumbs up" everywhere we went, from pedestrians to truckers (yes, even in CA!) Only got one negative comment all across the country. (Spammers, hackers and forgers--read this and weep! The grassroots are being shaken, and as Rhod has stated, "KERRY IS TOAST!!")

John, I've been catching up with what's new in your blog since I've been gone, and again, sincere thanks from my husband and me, for all you're doing to keep people informed with the truth.

And now, here is another report of how John Kerry tried to undermine the cause of freedom. Funny--this was never mentioned in all the extensive coverage following President Reagan's death.

From the online newspaper "Accuracy in Media" July 12, 2004

AIM Report: Kerry Subverted Reagan's Pro-Freedom Policies-July A

http://www.aim.org/aim_report/1786_0_4_0_C/

Why serve and fight for your country if afterwards you can't criticize it? That is what democracy is. I served my country for 20 years. I earned the right to say what I want about it's politics and policies. My country right or wrong and when it is wrong it is my duty to make it right again. At least Kerry isn't trying to screw veterans like the Repukes are!

David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

Nobody denies the right to criticize. But when you meet with the enemy, and then criticize the country with lies that they are using, there's a name other than "critic" for you. And that is exactly what John Kerry did. That is why his picture is honored in a museum for those who helped the communists win in Saigon - oops, Ho Chi Minh City. That's one of the reasons why his entire former chain of command pronounced him unfit to command.

So if you will vote for a guy like that because he promises to give you more money, go for it. Some of us joined to serve our country, not for the benefits, and besides, we know that a person like Kerry cannot be trusted to do what he promises. Also, benefit cuts only affect the very rich veterans.

Have YOU read Kerry's 1971 testimony? Do you think it is the truth? The link is available above.

Were YOU smeared by him like many of us were? Your country was smeared, and the reputation still sticks, thanks to Kerry. His friends, the Vietnamese communists recently put out an article which quoted Kerry by name as an authority saying that we did horrible things routinely in Vietnam. So go ahead, vote for the guys the communist butchers of Vietnam are voting for. Vote for they guy who helped kill millions of people in Vietnam by his propaganda. Vote for the guy who recommended we surrender in Vietnam - unconditional surrender.

But hey, what are principles and love of country compared to a few extra bucks spent by rich veterans?

How do you make it right again Master Sergent ? By undermining your countries policies in front of the whole world and call the PResident in front of the whole world a 'Liar'. It s sons a bitches like that spit on us when we returned from Viet Nam. And kerry is the biggest son of a bitch there is. I have more respect for the Hari-Krishna's than I do for that back-stabbing son of a bitch john kerry, at least all they did was chant.
It is your A##hole kerry that went before the Senate and lied his A## off just for political
gain. And called all of us war criminals which is Bull sh*t and if you were indeed in the service as you say you may realize it.
Now he has the b#lls to come before us and say, 'hey I want your vote , I was one of you'.
That is until he got back and stabbed us in the back by fratinizing with the enemy giving aid and comfort to the enemy, he violated the UCMJ, since you spent 20 years in the Air Force you should know what the UCMJ is, or has it been too long.
Criticism is one thing, but there is a fine line and going on national television and telling the enemy that our commander in chief is wrong that the war is illegal all you are doing is helping the other side.
Try rooting for our side for a change you liberal moron.
Mark
Semper Fi.

John,

Please define "rich" veteran. I didn't realize that you had to be means tested to be a veteran. Maybe that's why BushII, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Fife, and Pearle aren't veterans. Under-funding the VA, raising drug co-pays for veterans, closing VA facilities, denying Catergory 8 vets service, denying concurrent receipt of disability and retirement pay, only allowing a veteran to use his VA home loan once, affects ALL veterans.

Voting for somebody because they will give me more money. Hmmm...that would make me a Republican. "...killed MILLIONS of people in Vietnam by his propoganda." What do you call that statement? Recommending unconditional surrender? Bugging out of Saigon in 1975? Do we call that a strategic retreat? Under a Republican President? Sounds like Iraq today, huh?

And I didn't realize that the Freedom of Speech right was only for a select few. Silly me. I should have gone to college and become an oil magnate. I turned down 2 college scholarships and joined the Air Force because I wanted to serve my country.

And Mark, I will excuse you for your lack of articulation and command of the language. I would say that is indicative of the Marine Corps, but if you read Gen. Zinni's book and Gen. Hoar's statement at Diplomats and Military Commanders for Change website you will realize there are some intelligent Jarheads. I have even worked with some.

Yes, I am liberal, although I prefer the term progressive because it indicates action, but moron I am not.

Gentlemen, have a nice day!

Sincerely,
David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

P. S.

Mark,

You know why they put Marines on Navy ships?

So the sailors have somebody to dance with!...hehehe

I'm sure you and John make a lovely couple!

Sincerely,
David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

You read Zinnis book, I will stick with General Pullers'. Zinni has an ax to grind and has no more credibility than algore or BJ clinton.
Another communists website infiltrating the net how convenient for you.
As I said it is 'son of a bitches' like you that give aid and comfort to the enemy and undermine the United States.
We are at war, whether you believe it or not or whether Zinni believes it or not I dont give a 'sh*t' because neither one of you gives a 'rats-a**' about the United States. If you did you and Zinne would not be running around trying to get a 'traitor' elected to the Presidency
Appeasement didnt work in 1938 and it will not work today.
Call me stupid because I was only a 'grunt', but I was a damn good one and damn proud of it.
You can take your communists Bull sh*t and stick it where the sun dont shine. Because I know where exactly where you are coming from,, Red Square.
Mark
Try rooting for the good guys for a change.

I'll bet, David, that those came right from a Kerry talking point memo. Right below the part where Kerry promises to balance the budget on the backs of the rich.

Bush has increase military pay 21 percent.

He has cut the processing time for veterans claims in half.

He has increased the VA budget for medical care more than 40 percent.

Under Bush, the VA has enrolled an additional 2.5 milllion vets in health care, and contrary to your points, twice signed legislation providing concurrent receipt.

He has reducedd the disability claims backlog and intends to spend $3.7 billion to modernize VA facilities and put them in the best places to serve the most veterans.

Voting for somebody because they will give me more money. Hmmm...that would make me a Republican. "...killed MILLIONS of people in Vietnam by his propoganda." What do you call that statement? Recommending unconditional surrender? Bugging out of Saigon in 1975? Do we call that a strategic retreat? Under a Republican President? Sounds like Iraq today, huh?

And I didn't realize that the Freedom of Speech right was only for a select few. Silly me.

Perhaps you should study some history. As a result of Kerry's mouthing of North Vietnamese propaganda, and other people of his ilk, the US was forbidden from aiding South Vietnam. The North invaded with a force large than the entire US Army of today, and the supplies and air support that had long been promised had been cut off by the Democrat Congress.

There wasn't a strategic retreat - there was a turnover to the South Vietnamese, with a guarantee that we would provide supplies and air support if the North violated the truce. We were prevented from doing so by the Church amendment, put forth by the same Democrat who then destroyed the CIAs humint capability, with the result we saw on 9-11 (although Clinton made it worse, by not allowing the CIA to use agents who had blood on their hands, preventing infiltration of Al Qaeda or the Baathists, and preventing FBI counter-intelligence from talking to FBI criminal prosecutions). You liberals keep bedfellows whose main purpose seems to be to destroy our ability to defend ourselves.

As to freedom of speech, everyone has it. But freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Kerry's speech was treasonous. Ask his fellow Senator (and ex POW) Denton, or ask the commander of his riverine division. Or ask the over 250 Swift Boat Veterans including every one of his commanders, who have signed a letter saying he is unfit for command.

I turned down 2 college scholarships and joined the Air Force because I wanted to serve my country.

I coulda sworn, from your arguments, that you wanted the benefits.

David

Thank you for displaying your willingness to engage in reasoned debate. Obviously we should take what you say seriously.

NOT

Mark,

OK, if you insist....STUPID. Want a sign to go along with that?

Sincerely,
David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

P. S.

John,

At least you have an understanding of history. We could probably have good argument over a beer.

David,

That's entirely possible.

What I truly don't understand, though, is how any veteran could vote for John Kerry, after all the terrible things he did, as detailed in the article this is attached to. The guy was doing the work of the enemy. He was coordinating with them. He did it so well they honor him for it to this day. Even if you believe Winter Soldier (of which not one charge could be substantiated), it doesn't justify many of the things he said and did.

The guy is such an opportunist (according to his buddies in the VVAW, and the FBI records) that he sold out his country to get publicity for his political career. I cannot imagine a worse candidate for president. How do you answer that?

How do you answer the actions of over 250 Swift boat veterans who signed a letter proclaiming him to be unfit for command - including all of his commanding officers and his chain of command through CINCPAC (the latter represented by his son, also a vet, since Adm. Zumwalt died of cancer)?

This guy wasn't a run-of-the-mill war protester. He was part of a group coordinating with the enemy, and he himself met with them once for certain, and probably twice.

And he did it all to advance his career!

How can you vote for such a guy? Why do you believe he will do anything he promises, when he was willing to make such nation-damaging lies for his own good?

I don't get it.

I was talking to my mailman today - lifelong democrat, retired US Army, voting for Bush this year - first Republican vote ever. He, like most Vietnam Vets, understands what a snake Kerry is.

To All:
This I found on a website yesterday, it pretty much sums up the Kerry-Edwards platform. This is what the left-wing-commie balanced media doesnt want the average American to know.

Who does this sound like?
1. Bush is destroying workers rights and outsourcing jobs instead of
protecting the right to organize and creating new jobs rebuilding
schools, bridges, roads and hospitals

2. Bush is privatizing Medicare, Social Security and public
education with phony reforms instead of enacting health care for
all, protecting retirement funds and full funding for public
education through college.

3. Bush is bankrupting the Federal Government with giant tax cuts
for the very rich and super-funds to the military instead of
securing the budget for human needs by taxing the rich and spending
on human needs.

4. Bush is rolling back civil rights gains instead of enforcing and
expanding affirmative action to end racism in all areas of life.

5. Bush is curtailing women's rights and choice by undermining Roe
v. Wade instead of upholding the right to choice and ending the
gender wage gap.

6. Bush is abusing immigrant workers in low-wage jobs instead of
providing a clear path to citizenship and equal rights.

7. Bush is exploiting and ruining the environment by protecting
corporate polluters instead of conserving our natural resources for
the public good.

8. Bush's war in Iraq is a disaster for our security and economy. He
is pushing for more preemptive wars and for first strike nuclear
military policy instead of negotiations and cooperation utilizing
the UN.

9. Bush is denying civil liberties and free speech in the name of
fighting terrorism instead of repealing the USA Patriot Act and
helping cities, towns and states fund firefighters and police.

10. Bush discriminates against Gays and Lesbians with a
Constitutional Amendment instead of expanding civil rights and
liberties for all.

This is from the Communist Party USA site...I would say it sounds a lot like the Kerry Edwards sewage.

There is no debate there is no argument this is what we are up against. This is what Khruschev(sp) warned us in 1959, the take over will be from with in.
This is why we all need to vote against John Kerry and his 'ilk'

Mark

John,

PLEASE!

...after all the terrible things he did...
...The guy was doing the work of the enemy...
...He was coordinating with them...
...they honor him for it to this day...

With the reputation that Karl Rove has, if any of these things were true they would be using them in campaign ads smeared all over the media. Fox News would have a field day! Ann Coulter would be running her mouth on every morning talk show in the nation. Hell, look at what they did to Max Cleland in Georgia and John McCain in S. C. This administration is vicious and brutal to anybody that disagrees with them. They eat their own! Look at what they did to Treasury Sec. O'Neil, Richard Clark, Joe Wilson's wife, Gen. Zinni, Jay Garner, the poor guy who blew the whistle on the real cost of the Drug Prescription Bill, their Iraqi bud Chalabi. Why don't they use these "...terrible things he did..." against him? Because they are not true. It is all subjective speculation. One mans "terrible things" may be anothers saving grace. Like my daddy used to tell me when he worked for the city water dept. "one man's shit is another man's bread and butter." Define "enemy". The VC, NVA, or just progressive minded Americans like myself? Who is "them" that he was coordinating with? Who is "they" that honor him?

...The guy is such an opportunist...

SUBJECTIVE STATEMENT again. Refer to my daddy's previous statement on bread and butter. But maybe not. We know how objective the FBI can be! They didn't believe Organized Crime existed and saw commies behind every tree.

...250 Swift boat veterans...

Thats a small number of veterans for a war that lasted 10 years. Hell, I used to piss off that many people in 6 months on one flightline.

...including all of his commanding officers and his chain of command...

That sounds about right if he was doing his job and looking out for the people he was responsible for. I never gave a damn what the higher ups said about me. I took care of my people and in return they took care of me. If the higher ups could find a better maintenance NCO to replace me, they could have at it any time. But they never did.

...And he did it all to advance his career!...

If he could see his future that clear at that age he is a regular Nostradamus! When I was that age I was thinking about my next beer and piece of ass.

And Mark,

Did you forget your sign again?

Reagan killed and buried the communists in the last part of the eighties. You can't continue to use them as a front for all your bogeymen.

...There is no debate there is no argument...

Just what you would like. Keep everybody afraid and ignorant. That is why I spent 20 years serving my country, John, so that we can debate, argue, and speak freely, not for the benefits.

It's late gentlemen and I have to drive my wife into base in the morning. She has a C-141 flight to Landshul to pick up more wounded Warriors.

Sincerely,
David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

David,

I know it's hard to swallow that they guy you support was either a traitor or close to it, but did you read the evidence? Do you think CSPAN made it up? How else do you explain it? And remember, he visited the enemy before making that speech. Why do you suppose he did that?

Why do you think his picture is in a place in Vietnam where they honor those who helped the communists beat the US? Do you know any other soldiers holding that distinction?

You brush off the command team, but has this ever happened before? The answer is no. You can't get around the fact that, for the first time in history, the entire chain of command of an officer came out in public, 35 years later, to say he was unfit to command, based on their experience with him at the time and the lies he told immediately after service. Read this and try to explain it away! You imply it is common, but this is the first time in history this has been done, so your argument is meaningless. In recent history, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II were military officers. Did you ever hear of their entire chain of command coming out against them?

Have you talked to any of these guys? I have. And the answer I get is that they hate Kerry, because he was killing too many civilians, because he bailed out after 4 months (the only SWIFT boat skipper to do that who was still fit for duty), and because of his anti-war activities.

We are talking about Kerry, not Carl Rove. I can't speak for him, but I know that sometimes charges this explosive are difficult for the opposition to put out, especially in a world where the press is out to get Bush.

You say my opportunist statement is subjective. It is an opinion of Kerry's own VVAW buddies and the FBI. That they would have that opinion is significant.

There weren't all that many SWIFT boat veterans. Many dislike Kerry because they lost friends when holding fire in free fire zones until they had clear target identification, while Kerry was known to kill anything that moved.

As for your reaading my mind (Keep everybody afraid and ignorant), I find that offensive. I am putting out facts here. If some other Democrat was running, I wouldn't be nearly as active. But Kerry slandered me, he slandered his country, he slandered my friends killing in the service, and that slander continutes.

I have presented a lot of carefully researched facts. You respond with an implication that I want to Keep everyone afraid and ignorant.

That is not debate, it is an insult.

I suggest you look at the evidence of Kerry's very unusual activities, before you try to convince me he was just an ordinary guy who managed to piss off a few folks.

John Moore:
You cant argue with this guy, his mind is made up and that is all there is to it. He has a fixed idea in his head that Bush is the evil one and kerry is the savior of 'HIS' country. The only problem with this is, it is not our country it is a country where, there is no sovereignty for the United States, they want and I mean kerry and this socalled Veteran, the US to be part of the WORLD where we have no super status but yet we support the world.
This is what the Kyoto accords were all about, this is what Global Warming is all about get the Evil United States to pay their fair share because it aint fair that they have so much.
This guy is no different than Karl, from Germany. The only difference is he is on the LEFT end of the political spectrum.
They are free to believe whatever they want but when they start doing it so that , their agenda , jeopardizes the safety of our troops and the mission of the United States, energises the enemy (as Hanoi 'Jane and John ' did this is crossing the line between freedom of speech and sedition.)They can not allow Bush to have any success there in Iraq whatever, because if it is good for America it is not good for them. Conversely if it is good for America it is bad for the Leftist-democrats.
If this is such an illegal war, where were these people when Clintin, started bombing Kosovo, NO UN sanctions, Madeline NotsoBright, goes on television and tries to speak in their native tongue with all the conviction of Willie Sutton swearing he will never rob another bank.
Where were they then ?
YOu will never get a straight answer from this guy because he doesnt have one all he has is cliche's, and the recent talking points from the DNC.
Kerry and Edwards voted for the war and demanded that a second vote be taken when both votes won they voted against funding the troops, especially for 'Body-Armor', which since he was in the Air-farce wouldn't have a clue what that is anyway.
But these are who he is supporting he has never answered WHY he is supporting them except that he is a socialist.
What irked me about the Presidents' new tone is this , you can not be friends with these people, you can't make nice with them and expect the same treatment back, it wont happen they will stab you in the back everytime.
Just like Ted Kennedy has done to the President.The same thing Kennedy did to President Ford when he tried to honor the truce in Viet Nam, it was the democrats that sold out the South Vietnamese, not Ford.
These people are the enemy, they are the enemy of the United States.

Mark

Mark,

You make a strong case...for IQ tests before you can particpate in an election...hehehe. You VIENNA WEINER!

Leave the heavy thinking to John and save your head for visually examining your rectum...hehehe.

Sincerely,
David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

For someone as smart as you claim to be you never seem to be able to answer a simple question. Why is that ? Could it be that your real agenda would come out. sort of like kerry moving to the center to convince everyone he is not the 'flaming liberal' we all know he is.
As arrogant as you are you have no argument, which is classic liberalism. All symbolism no substance.
Or better yet you are a fake a fraud you wouldn't know the truth if it smack you across the face.
You want to debate but cannot answer simple questions, maybe you should have taken one of those scholarships.

Mark

John:

M/Sgt Richards is a prime example of a "useful fool" and I have one comment concerning him: "There is none so blind as he who will not see".

Keep up the good work; there are a lot of people out there who ARE listening, and know the truth when they hear it.

God bless,
Sharon

Mark:

After reading further "comments" by David Richards, I agree with you--it's no use to say anything to him. He doesn't want his propaganda to get confused by the truth.

Carry on,
Sharon

Mark,

...He has a fixed idea in his head that Bush is the evil one and kerry is the savior of 'HIS' country...

Are you reading my mind? I find that offensive, to quote John.

...The only problem with this is, it is not our country it is a country where, there is no sovereignty for the United States, they want and I mean kerry and this socalled Veteran, the US to be part of the WORLD where we have no super status but yet we support the world...

Last time I checked, the United States was still part of Earth. I would just like to see us NOT get voted off the island.

...This guy is no different than Karl, from Germany...

Who?

...They are free to believe whatever they want but when they start doing it so that , their agenda , jeopardizes the safety of our troops and the mission of the United States, energises the enemy (as Hanoi 'Jane and John ' did this is crossing the line between freedom of speech and sedition.)They can not allow Bush to have any success there in Iraq whatever, because if it is good for America it is not good for them. Conversely if it is good for America it is bad for the Leftist-democrats...

As long as it isn't contrary to what you believe?
subjective statement again.

...If this is such an illegal war, where were these people when Clintin, started bombing Kosovo...

Kosovo was a NATO war, fought with ALL our allies.

...Kerry and Edwards voted for the war...

Voted to authorize the President the use of force after exhausting all other options. Hell, we had been bombing them for 10 years. They weren't going anywhere.

...'Body-Armor', which since he was in the Air-farce wouldn't have a clue what that is anyway...

That and helmets were issued to us every time we went TDY along with gas masks and chem gear.

...But these are who he is supporting he has never answered WHY he is supporting them except that he is a socialist...

WHY? Because my fellow Warriors are being slaughtered everyday in Iraq! THERE IS NOT ONE, A HUNDRED, A THOUSAND, OR A MILLION IRAQI'S WORTH ONE AMERICAN WARRIOR!

We went into Afghanistan and KICKED ASS with the whole world on our side. We took our revenge for 9/11. We had an opportunity to make something of that country, to show the muslim world that, contrary to all the Madrases teachings we were a good, decent, benevolent society. But no, that wasn't good enough for George. He decided we needed to open a second front in Iraq, reminiscent of another "brilliant" strategic thinker of half a century before. Him and his "war council"...5 deferment Cheney, comb sucking Wolfowitz, cold warrior Perle, Chalabi's butt-buddy Fife, and "democracy is messy" Rumsfeld. Check out their "war records".

WHY? No WMD, no Al-Qeda operations connection, no nuclear program. Was it pay back for daddy? Oil? Haliburton profits? Our men and women in uniform are a prescious resource that should only be used when all else fails.

...WHY he is supporting them except that he is a socialist...

...Or better yet you are a fake a fraud...

DON'T QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM OR MY SERVICE! I haven't yours.

Sincerely,
David L. Richards, MSgt., USAF, (Ret.)

No WMD ? How did the kurds die ? A couple hundred thousand of them, must've been something in the air, eh?
So you want to be part of the world but not one Iraqi life is worth a fellow warrior ? Then why did we fight in the Second World ? You also say that one Iraqi life is not worth one American life, then that should also include the French lives, especially the 10,913 lost liberating France, and the other hundreds of thousands lost for Europe,, they owe us big time.
I dont know what your MOS is and frankly dont care. If you were there , thank you for your service. But you have joined an organization that doesn't care about the troops on the ground there whether you believe it or not.
If you dont think all of the democrats Kennedy, Byrd, and the rest of them is not giving aid and comfort to YOUR enemy and mine then you are sadly mistaken.
There is certainly an Al-quaeda connection, do you think saddam was in a vacuum ?

All that said, and you were there, and have still should have 'Brothers in Harms Way' and you can condone what kerry and the rest are saying ?
Then yes I will question your patriotism. Not for what you did there but what you are doing now.
Kerry and Hanoi Jane did the same to us that you and your fellow travellers are doing to this new generation of Soldiers, stabbing them in the back.
We have 34 years of anger built up and it will come out this November. When Jane 'the communist'Fonda went to Hanoi she was taken to a POW camp and the POWs(some) gave her, on the QT so they thought, palmed messages, when they shook her hand, when the ordeal was over, she promptly turned over to the guards, the poor bastards who thought she could be trusted, were all beaten for trying to sneak her a message. These are the people you want to run the United States ???? This is John Kerry, this is the John Kerry the campaign doesn't want you to know about. This is the John Kerry that General Giap, CIC of the Communist NVA forces credited for helping them to keep on fighting. They have recently given him(Kerry) that same recognition.
So if you think you have issues with this administration ? We have Mega-issues with John Kerry that have been festering for the past 34 years. Now he has the b*lls to tell us, hey I am one of you ? When it is politically convenient for him to get votes.. uh uh aint gonna work.
As I told John, arguing with you is pointless, your mind is made up and that is fine. But at least find out the turth about what is really going on.
Ask yourself this when the war goes bad in Iraq or Afghanistan why does kerry,( because the media is just a tad slanted to the left), numbers go up, and when it goes well they don't, In other words, if the news is Good for America it is bad for John Kerry and the democrats.

Mark

An interesting news item from Accuracy in Media:

Reality Check for Dems: Examining the Myths of the Vietnam War by Geoff Metcalf July 19, 2004

http://www.aim.org/guest_column/1800_0_6_0C/

Correction on previous web address:
correct address is:
http://www.aim.org/guest_column/1800_0_6_0_C/

Sorry for the typo,
Sharon

From the time this land was taken by Englishmen, to the present day, it has never been a government for the people. Nor has it been a country. It has been a slaughter house for the weak and a struggle for the rich to become richer. What voice do you honestly think you have in this country today? A government for the people, yea, think again! A shame you pay taxs for your local ambulance service,yet, if you need to go to the hospital(life and death here people)you still will be charged for the ride! When it comes to politics, do you decide who you can and can't marry? Who decides this for your freedom of choice? Freedom of what? Exactly. Congress, who I might add does nothing, raised more hell about Janet Jackson's tits falling out than they did in all of 2004. What land of the free is this? It is not and never will be. Sure we have the luxury of many beautiful things in this country (it's still permitted by law)but, for how long? People always talk about leaving this world better for children, but, whats being done for them? If politicians (all of them) worried more about the real causes of destruction in this(world) nothing would still be done, because it doesn't involve making money or them being remembered as a leader. What politician do you know, wouldn't save a rain forest if he or she could get rich? How can you get rich by saving a rain forest? But, to make it so you can't bring lawsuits against hospitals and doctors or your health care is rising,well, yes they can get rich by accepting contrbutions and soft money in the pocket. Oh,but all politicians are ethical and would never except money to better themselves or a partys message, na, not them. Bottom line people, it doesn't matter who you vote for, they are all crooks. Every politician wants to save the world,but, those he surounds himself with show him other wise. If he or she want change, then the political party can x them out as soon as they came in. Money, Greed, and little pieces left for us crumb snatchers seem to be the norm. Its nobodys fault the economy is bad, its just the mechanics of human nature and the cycle of money in its ups and downs. You can't blame someone for this. Oh it was Goerge Bush who stole our money, OH it was John Kerry who made the terrorist attack us again in 2006. We as people always lay blame on others and not ourselves, this is what has made this country the way it is today. Nobody blames themselves for allowing laws to be passed, votes left uncounted, raising of insurance and many other things this nation is affraid to stand up about. But are we allowed to stand up? Sure, its the land of the free,but, why waste the breathe? Who is listening? Who is listening to this message and cares,not many, most are to busy living the life of everyday people blinded by laws, restrictions and corperate gambits. Personally, I don't vote and probably never will, it's not worth knowing I put someone in office who could care less about my family, my well-being and the well-being of others in this country. We are supposed to be the government of this country, a country for the people by the people, and every year it gets worse. So ask yourself after reading this, how can I leave this world a better place for my kid's. I'm sorry to say, but you can't. You can only hope these days, that time will make things better and people will help to change the way things are presented to us in this world. Because politicians are making it so non of you will ever have a say on what is really hurting this nation................Freedom for politicians to do what ever they want!

...Bottom line people, it doesn't matter who you vote for...

Steve,

I'm willimg to bet that there are approx. 900 families in this country who wished that 500 people in Florida had voted for Al Gore in 2000.

To Dave:

Five will get you ten that there are hundreds of thousands who voted for Gore...who are glad that Bush was elected. Get over it cry baby...

Steve:

What a wonderful set of ideas. Hundreds of words dedicated to blaming others for your plight, with an imbeded insistence that "we" always blame others rather than ourselves. Give it up.

Energy derives from the plus and negatives. Your ill remarks are not a virtue to any of "us". Your haste in common relations with people's genuine ideas are fragile and repugnant.

Steve:

My oh my, aren't we grand! Did you write your post with a copy of Strunk/White or did you have Fowler's at the ready. My "haste in common relations with people's genuine ideas" is a phrase too ridiculous to address. The fact remains, dear boy, that your first post was diminished by demonstrating the accusation you aim at others. Eh wot, old boy? A bit pompous and overwrought, are we not? RSVP.

Pompous? Hardly. The fact remains, you have nothing to do with the overall government process called "Freedom" As I have stated, we have freedom to write these post, drive cars, vote (what ever that is) and many other things in this country. But, when government starts telling you who you can and cannot marry in this country, things are not as they appear.******* And there are those who push there fingers through the brittle walls of there life and make a hole. And through this cruel slit, they stare out across the cinders of the world with naked eyes. They look both out and in, knowing themselves and knowing too much else besides........(Molly Drake)

I can now say that John Kerry is the Manchurian candidate!

My husband served in Vietnam, with the 2nd/94th, stationed at Camp Carroll. He was injured when incoming hit his gun, blowing it apart and pinning him for several hours. While he lay in a field hospital, recovering, John & Jane were doing their dance with the North Vietnamese. He returned to his unit, turned down his purple heart, because he felt he had done nothing to deserve it, yet John Kerry received 3 in 4 months time. My husband walks with a limp, yet Kerry doesn't even have a scar. Go Figure. In all honesty, I could not vote for John Kerry. I don't agree with everything George Bush does, and maybe he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he wasn't a traitor!
I find it very ironic, that a war that had "no heroes", according to Kerry, now has one running for the most important position in this country. In my opinion, John Kerry is not fit to clean the boots of our soldiers, much less be Commander-in Chief!

My husband served in Vietnam, with the 2nd/94th, stationed at Camp Carroll. He was injured when incoming hit his gun, blowing it apart and pinning him for several hours. While he lay in a field hospital, recovering, John & Jane were doing their dance with the North Vietnamese. He returned to his unit, turned down his purple heart, because he felt he had done nothing to deserve it, yet John Kerry received 3 in 4 months time. My husband walks with a limp, yet Kerry doesn't even have a scar. Go Figure. In all honesty, I could not vote for John Kerry. I don't agree with everything George Bush does, and maybe he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he wasn't a traitor!
I find it very ironic, that a war that had "no heroes", according to Kerry, now has one running for the most important position in this country. In my opinion, John Kerry is not fit to clean the boots of our soldiers, much less be Commander-in Chief!

My husband served in Vietnam, with the 2nd/94th, stationed at Camp Carroll. He was injured when incoming hit his gun, blowing it apart and pinning him for several hours. While he lay in a field hospital, recovering, John & Jane were doing their dance with the North Vietnamese. He returned to his unit, turned down his purple heart, because he felt he had done nothing to deserve it, yet John Kerry received 3 in 4 months time. My husband walks with a limp, yet Kerry doesn't even have a scar. Go Figure. In all honesty, I could not vote for John Kerry. I don't agree with everything George Bush does, and maybe he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he wasn't a traitor!
I find it very ironic, that a war that had "no heroes", according to Kerry, now has one running for the most important position in this country. In my opinion, John Kerry is not fit to clean the boots of our soldiers, much less be Commander-in Chief!

My husband served in Vietnam, with the 2nd/94th, stationed at Camp Carroll. He was injured when incoming hit his gun, blowing it apart and pinning him for several hours. While he lay in a field hospital, recovering, John & Jane were doing their dance with the North Vietnamese. He returned to his unit, turned down his purple heart, because he felt he had done nothing to deserve it, yet John Kerry received 3 in 4 months time. My husband walks with a limp, yet Kerry doesn't even have a scar. Go Figure. In all honesty, I could not vote for John Kerry. I don't agree with everything George Bush does, and maybe he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he wasn't a traitor!
I find it very ironic, that a war that had "no heroes", according to Kerry, now has one running for the most important position in this country. In my opinion, John Kerry is not fit to clean the boots of our soldiers, much less be Commander-in Chief!

My husband served in Vietnam, with the 2nd/94th, stationed at Camp Carroll. He was injured when incoming hit his gun, blowing it apart and pinning him for several hours. While he lay in a field hospital, recovering, John & Jane were doing their dance with the North Vietnamese. He returned to his unit, turned down his purple heart, because he felt he had done nothing to deserve it, yet John Kerry received 3 in 4 months time. My husband walks with a limp, yet Kerry doesn't even have a scar. Go Figure. In all honesty, I could not vote for John Kerry. I don't agree with everything George Bush does, and maybe he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he wasn't a traitor!
I find it very ironic, that a war that had "no heroes", according to Kerry, now has one running for the most important position in this country. In my opinion, John Kerry is not fit to clean the boots of our soldiers, much less be Commander-in Chief!

I find it very interesting that all of these pro-Bush/anti-Kerry people accuse the media of being biased and pro-Kerry.While I agree that the media is biased, I do recall the rejection by NBC to play an anti-Bush commercial during the Super Bowl this past year...maybe because NBC and numerous other stations have powerful connections to George W. which would be jepordized by anything which did not support our current president. Now that does not sound very democratic to me, what happened to freedom of speech?? Oh, that's right, the "Patriot" Act gave good old George the right to strip us of that freedom whenever he deems it "necessary". And while you all are busy staining the military career of John Kerry, may I remind you that he at least HAS a legitimate military career to speak of. Because I do recall a certain George W. Bush skipping out on the remainder of his enlistment, which did not even involve going overseas to any real war in the first place. And now he feels he has the right to send thousands of Americans over to Iraq and possibly re-instate the draft? Sounds a bit hypocritical if you ask me. I hope that this comment, controversial to the opinion of your site as it may be, is posted for all to see as a demonstration of our freedom of speech that our founding fathers took so much pride in. Because if you simply delete my comments then I'd have to wonder, what are you so afraid of?

Every once in a while a poor deluded lefty wanders in here and lays down standard, leftist cant.

Brigid, almost everything you wrote is wrong.

So I'm just not even going to bother refuting it. It isn't worth my time.

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