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Without intending insult, yes, you did.

I think it self-evident that many non-Italians and non-Europeans sound more like Pius XII than Paul VI (in terms of the message conveyed, not of their accents ).

I wouldn’t assert that “conservativism” and “progressivism” (in terms of Catholic theology) are synonymous with “non-European” and “European”. I would assert, however, that a representative sample, whether of the laity or the clerisy, of non-European Catholics would be significantly more conservative (or less progresive) than a like sampling of European Catholics.

As you justly point out, though, these maunderings have little if any to do with what the College of Cardinals will do when the Chair of St. Peter becomes vacant.

Is IXLNXS hiding out as Wichita Boy?

I can’t answer for John Moore, but Wichita Boy misses the point entirely. First, it doesn’t follow that the decline or dilution of mainstream Christian denominations will lead to the rise of Islam. Why would it? You make the common error of confusing the practice of Christianity with Christianity itself. You observed that John Moore lost his “faith in Presbyterianism”. Ridiculous.

This leads to your second misconception, which is that dissatisfaction with established religions leads to “new religions” to “satisfy the eternal demand for meaning in life”. This is first on the list of delusions of non-believers and agnostic humanists about religion in general. You see religious adherents as consumers and religion as a vehicle to need satisfaction.

It is more likely that those who acknowledge that life is meaningless will turn AWAY from religion.
An awareness of “meaning” precedes religion, it does not follow FROM religion and is not a consequence of belief.

That is why I don’t think it is at all inconceivable that many both here and in Europe will turn to Islam. That’s a far more satisfying religion than, say, the religion of buying particularly good olives at Whole Foods.

What a remarkable post. I believed that Gnosticism flickered out in the third century, and was unaware of the Medieval version.

You describes Christian leftists as being engaged in a “personal morality play”. I would add that the personal morality play is corrupted by its being a manifestation of The Self, with all that this implies.

Secular leftism is also contaminated by the kind of millenarianism, which creeps into the Christian version too.

All progressive, collectivist politics is derived from Mediaeval Gnostics, who believed that an elect, inspired by a Gnostic prophet and following a Gnostic leader, could force the achievement of the perfected state that will occur after the Second Coming (something that the orthodox hold lies only in the mind of God). Thus, liberals and other Leftists see themselves not in a present of contingencies, of surprises, choices, and consequences, of advances and regressions, but rather in the middle of a drama with a beginning and foregone dénouement. Their sense of righteousness does not come from practicing objective virtues but from advancing an agenda. Hence their conviction of the depravity of those who act against the tide they are trying to impose on history.

In their own personal morality plays, Christian leftists sometimes like to cast themselves after the model of those who “spoke truth to power”, usually without specifically mentioning such rigorously orthodox names as Bernard of Clairveaux, Thomas More, and Pope Gregory VII (Hildegard of Bingen gets a feminist exception). In this as in so much else their understanding is twisted. In an age of kings, it may be appropriate to address the State as the seat of power. But in a democracy, power lies with the people. If you wish to achieve the humanitarian consequences of Christ’s Good News, then it is the citizenry who must be evangelized.