Safer With These Folks Around?
Mon October 11th, 2004 19:08 MSTNEW YORK (AFP) - Human Rights Watch listed the names of 11 senior Al-Qaeda suspects it said were held by the CIA (news - web sites) in secret locations overseas, where some had reportedly been tortured.
The suspects were detained with no notification to their families, no Red Cross access and, in some cases, no acknowledgement that they are even being held, the New York-based watchdog said in a 46-page report.
“‘Disappearances’ were a trademark abuse of Latin American military dictatorships in their ‘dirty war’ on alleged subversion,” said Human Rights Watch special counsel Reed Brody.
“Now they have become a United States tactic in its conflict with Al-Qaeda,” Brody said.
These terrorists were captured on foreign territory and are at war with us, but target civilians and ignore all laws of war. They have said they want to kill or conquer all of us.
But “human rights groups” always have to go complain when we do those sometimes terrible things.
Would you feel safer with them in power, or someone who understands the stakes like George Bush?
Notice the misplaced “alleged”. There was no question of the subversion; it was its perpetrators who were alleged.
A few more of the distortions necessary to create an appearance of equivalence:
–Equating citizen political prisoners with international terrorists
–Implying that international terrorists are due the same treatment as lawful soldiers. If nothing else, a POW is out of it, while in contrast, the very fact of a clandestine agent’s capture is a valuable–even life-saving–piece of information.
–Asserting that the capture and imprisonment of non-US citizens in foreign countries by foreign governments makes the CIA guilty of illegal restraint and murder of US citizens at home.
–Implying the absurdity that a clandestine terrorist can be (further) “disappeared”.
–Counting acknowledged prisoners among the “disappeared”.
–It would be easy to ask where HRW has been during kidnappings, beheadings, and bombings conducted by the NGO mujihadin, but they don’t even acknowledge that they have no idea of where to deliver the letter of protest, and that includes a press conference for the Arab/Islamic press (predicted attendance: 0).
There are at least two things about NGOs like Human Rights Watch that really grate my goolies:
First, they are completely irresponsible and unaccountable. They are simply facilitators for moral posturing by people whose annual dues are solicited by trumped up simplistic morality tales.
Second, they assume an inhuman, angelic viewpoint that goes far beyond any national or international law, and they act as though every government action is covered by their nicey-nicey punctilio appropriate for dealing with Enron executives (tho no liberal worth his ACLU card wouldn’t give up one of his Volvos for a chance to violate the Geneva Conventions with Ken Lay). The word for this is arrogance.
To tell the truth, suppose the Director of Central Intelligence had an angelic advisor. I doubt the advisor would have his feathers all in a flutter over a couple of al-Qa’eda honchos kept under wraps (official prayer: “St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protector against the wickedness and snares of the devil . . . Thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits, who wander through the world seeking the ruin and destruction of souls.”). Granted, thrusting into Hell is not in the CIA’s job description, so St. Michael would certainly insist on positive identification, three squares and a rack, toothbrush, towel, blanket, and shower every other day. I trust our spooks are restraining some of our less refined allies.
You are quite right.
Another problem with NGO’s is that they are powerful. They have a lot of money, and ear of the leftist press.
They can thus cause smaller governments to take actions just because the NGO wants it to, and they can strongly influence political forces in larger countries.
For all of that, some of them do great good.
But too many are leftist fronts or openly leftist or fronts for other enemies (islamofascists, for example).
John, I’m trying to get in touch with you and did not find an email address. I assume you remember me, from Roger Simons place. I have a little election idea to run by you. Thanks.
This is why the election of john kerry would be a complete and total disaster, to this country and to the world. Even though he is an admitted ‘globalist’, his leftist attitude would put the terrorists in a position of commnad of their own situation and would give them the freedom of movemnet they are trying to get at this moment.
These insurgents dont play by the rules, ergo there are no rules. What these Human rights activists dont want to admit is if caught by the terrorists they would be just as dead as the rest of their victims. The only way to combat these evil people is to kill them where they are. When dealing with terrorists there should be a ‘take no prisoners attitude.’
They say they are fighting a jihad for G-d, then it is our responsibility to ensure that they have their meeting with their G-d.
Mark
Mark,
I’d agree with not taking prisoners, except for the intel value that would be lost. Suck ‘em dry of info first, then shoot, shovel, and shut up…
A new direction on this thread.
It will be interesting to see how many prisoners are taken in Falujah. We could see a wave of them once their defenses collapse, or just the reverse. It depends upon how aggressively we use the heavy stuff to remove the cement and building block (and the enemy with it). It also depends upon how energetic our Iraqi pals are in settling some scores.
This will not be The Citadel all over again. We’ve learned a lot from the Brits about urban warfare, and the technology has changed a lot. We will still have guys knocking on doors, but there will be a lot more preparation.
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