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	<title>Comments on: Wikipedia Fraud and why Conservatives Should Act</title>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyvital.com/blog/2009/09/04/wikipedia-fraud-and-why-conservatives-should-act/comment-page-1/#comment-81730</link>
		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;anyone who believes passionately in ANYTHING should fight to keep his views dominant. Isn’t that what you’re doing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not if my views are inconsistent with reality.

&lt;blockquote&gt; THEY ARE DOMINANT! Your faulty reasoning – like much of the reasoning from the right – is largely the REASON our views are dominant. Why are you wasting your time trying to argue for the benefits of the Vietnam War? No one on the left is trying to “re-write history” in order to make the USA “look bad.” The government of our country is supposed to be by, for and of the people (a quote from a Republican president, by the way.) People are imperfect. People make mistakes. The Vietnam War was a mistake. That is not a “liberal” point of view. It is a historical fact: far more ill was done than good by the U.S. invasion of Vietnam BY ANY MEASURE.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, they are not dominant, except in certain circles (mainstream media, academia, and east/west rich folks).

As for Vietnam, the point of my disagreement has nothing to do with the larger issue of whether Vietnam was good policy, and everything to do with how the US was painted as an unusually evil nation, with unusually evil soldiers, by the VVAW and some others in the anti-war movement. They did (and do) that two ways: (1) making a big deal about the normal horrors of war - as if America was responsible for creating that); and by making it seem (quite intentionally) as if atrocities on the part of the US were both widespread, common and tacitly supported by the highers up.

It&#039;s a disgusting tactic, because it smears the US, and it does it with lies. The left is very consistent in its smearing of our country, even as they love to live in it. They were terrible about Iraq, trashing a military that took more care than any in history to avoid atrocitiey. But, of course, they &quot;support the soldier.&quot; 

Right. Ask the soldiers what they think about it and they didn&#039;t feel supported at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>anyone who believes passionately in ANYTHING should fight to keep his views dominant. Isn’t that what you’re doing?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not if my views are inconsistent with reality.</p>
<blockquote><p> THEY ARE DOMINANT! Your faulty reasoning – like much of the reasoning from the right – is largely the REASON our views are dominant. Why are you wasting your time trying to argue for the benefits of the Vietnam War? No one on the left is trying to “re-write history” in order to make the USA “look bad.” The government of our country is supposed to be by, for and of the people (a quote from a Republican president, by the way.) People are imperfect. People make mistakes. The Vietnam War was a mistake. That is not a “liberal” point of view. It is a historical fact: far more ill was done than good by the U.S. invasion of Vietnam BY ANY MEASURE.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, they are not dominant, except in certain circles (mainstream media, academia, and east/west rich folks).</p>
<p>As for Vietnam, the point of my disagreement has nothing to do with the larger issue of whether Vietnam was good policy, and everything to do with how the US was painted as an unusually evil nation, with unusually evil soldiers, by the VVAW and some others in the anti-war movement. They did (and do) that two ways: (1) making a big deal about the normal horrors of war &#8211; as if America was responsible for creating that); and by making it seem (quite intentionally) as if atrocities on the part of the US were both widespread, common and tacitly supported by the highers up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a disgusting tactic, because it smears the US, and it does it with lies. The left is very consistent in its smearing of our country, even as they love to live in it. They were terrible about Iraq, trashing a military that took more care than any in history to avoid atrocitiey. But, of course, they &#8220;support the soldier.&#8221; </p>
<p>Right. Ask the soldiers what they think about it and they didn&#8217;t feel supported at all!</p>
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		<title>By: David Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyvital.com/blog/2009/09/04/wikipedia-fraud-and-why-conservatives-should-act/comment-page-1/#comment-81729</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A conspiracy by the left to control the articles in Wikipedia?  Wow.  &quot;By persistently fighting to keep their views dominant?&quot;

First of all, anyone who believes passionately in ANYTHING should fight to keep his views dominant.  Isn&#039;t that what you&#039;re doing?

Secondly, we&#039;re not FIGHTING to keep our views dominant.  THEY ARE DOMINANT!  Your faulty reasoning - like much of the reasoning from the right - is largely the REASON our views are dominant.  Why are you wasting your time trying to argue for the benefits of the Vietnam War?  No one on the left is trying to &quot;re-write history&quot; in order to make the USA &quot;look bad.&quot;  The government of our country is supposed to be by, for and of the people (a quote from a Republican president, by the way.)  People are imperfect.  People make mistakes.  The Vietnam War was a mistake.  That is not a &quot;liberal&quot; point of view.  It is a historical fact: far more ill was done than good by the U.S. invasion of Vietnam BY ANY MEASURE.  

The United States is the best country governed by the best possible government structure ever devised in human history so far.  That is not a &quot;conservative&quot; position or a &quot;liberal&quot; position.  It is a historical fact as well.

Get over yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A conspiracy by the left to control the articles in Wikipedia?  Wow.  &#8220;By persistently fighting to keep their views dominant?&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, anyone who believes passionately in ANYTHING should fight to keep his views dominant.  Isn&#8217;t that what you&#8217;re doing?</p>
<p>Secondly, we&#8217;re not FIGHTING to keep our views dominant.  THEY ARE DOMINANT!  Your faulty reasoning &#8211; like much of the reasoning from the right &#8211; is largely the REASON our views are dominant.  Why are you wasting your time trying to argue for the benefits of the Vietnam War?  No one on the left is trying to &#8220;re-write history&#8221; in order to make the USA &#8220;look bad.&#8221;  The government of our country is supposed to be by, for and of the people (a quote from a Republican president, by the way.)  People are imperfect.  People make mistakes.  The Vietnam War was a mistake.  That is not a &#8220;liberal&#8221; point of view.  It is a historical fact: far more ill was done than good by the U.S. invasion of Vietnam BY ANY MEASURE.  </p>
<p>The United States is the best country governed by the best possible government structure ever devised in human history so far.  That is not a &#8220;conservative&#8221; position or a &#8220;liberal&#8221; position.  It is a historical fact as well.</p>
<p>Get over yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyvital.com/blog/2009/09/04/wikipedia-fraud-and-why-conservatives-should-act/comment-page-1/#comment-77916</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Baxter is  FRAUD!  He was still calling himself Vietnam Veteran against the war last year.  He is a disgrace to all veterans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Baxter is  FRAUD!  He was still calling himself Vietnam Veteran against the war last year.  He is a disgrace to all veterans.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyvital.com/blog/2009/09/04/wikipedia-fraud-and-why-conservatives-should-act/comment-page-1/#comment-77843</link>
		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nonsense. The mutagenic and teratogenic potential of Agent Orange was always grossly exaggerated.

More important, since our &quot;leaders&quot; kept us from winning the war, and then when we finally did, they pulled the rug out from under the South Vietnamese, generations of Vietnamese continue to live under the yoke of communist totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonsense. The mutagenic and teratogenic potential of Agent Orange was always grossly exaggerated.</p>
<p>More important, since our &#8220;leaders&#8221; kept us from winning the war, and then when we finally did, they pulled the rug out from under the South Vietnamese, generations of Vietnamese continue to live under the yoke of communist totalitarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Baxter</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyvital.com/blog/2009/09/04/wikipedia-fraud-and-why-conservatives-should-act/comment-page-1/#comment-77723</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing we Vietnam Veterans can hold in hearts is that when our grandchildren are buried by their grandchildren, while Agent Orange may have worked its way out of Vietnam&#039;s ecology, the kilotons of UXOs will be still be killing Vietnamese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing we Vietnam Veterans can hold in hearts is that when our grandchildren are buried by their grandchildren, while Agent Orange may have worked its way out of Vietnam&#8217;s ecology, the kilotons of UXOs will be still be killing Vietnamese.</p>
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